tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072931.post2449161156178884922..comments2023-03-13T10:13:20.378-04:00Comments on Pursuing the Revolutionary Tradition: California's Proposition 8- Gay Marriage Banrheimbrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15141146680438965835noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072931.post-26642451313935227082008-10-18T23:48:00.000-04:002008-10-18T23:48:00.000-04:00Thank you for your thoughts.By your argument thoug...Thank you for your thoughts.<BR/><BR/>By your argument though- shouldn't you pursue the outlawing of all sinful behavior, including adultery, fornication and divorce through government?<BR/><BR/>As I stated above, this is not a Christian nation. It is made up of people from all faiths as well as athiests and and agnostics. This proposition goes against the notion of equality that our country espouses.<BR/><BR/>As a counter-argument I would say that there is a difference between being a moral guardian over the culture you live in, and being a moral guardian within the church. Neither Jesus or Paul sought to judge those outside either the Jewish or Christian communities (see 1 Cor 5:12-13 for example). This is why passing a law banning gay marriage in the name of Christian values is simply mind-boggling to me. It puts one more barrier between the church and its neighbors. I don't see how it expresses the gospel to anyone who disagrees. In fact I think it reduces the chances of them taking any Christian seriously let alone stepping within the walls of a church to worship.<BR/><BR/><BR/>While I had come to many similar conclusions already, a book that has done many good things for my understanding of the church's role in society and politics has been The Myth of a Christian Nation by Greg Boyd. There are simply few books I would recommend as highly as this one if you are interested in how I have come to where I stand.rheimbrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15141146680438965835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072931.post-73102753369868109012008-10-18T23:44:00.000-04:002008-10-18T23:44:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.rheimbrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15141146680438965835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9072931.post-31780675404490888912008-10-18T23:10:00.000-04:002008-10-18T23:10:00.000-04:00You have obviously thought about this very careful...You have obviously thought about this very carefully. However, I disagree with your conclusion. I think that homosexuality, adultery, fornication, and divorce are all sinful and destabilizing trends in our society. Just because I can do little to fight against the latter three does not mean I should do everything in my power to fortify my cultures position on the former. I have known many good sinners and had many wonderful homosexual friends. I will always love them, as Christ has taught me. But I can never retract the truth that I know and hope that my government will join me in refusing to condone their actions.Carolynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14336897934963856543noreply@blogger.com